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defense and we'll litigate that next year and there are opportunities to debate the spending, defense and entitlement issues next year, get the tax issue off the table, the weakest one for the republicans and let the president own it -- >> end with a wimper, not a bang. >> yes, could be. >> chris: there you go, see you next week, don't forget, check out panel plus where our group picks up right with the discussion on our web site, foxnewssunday.com and we'll post the video before noon eastern time and follow us on twitter. @foxnewssunday. this program note: tune into fox news channel tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern for "fly me to the moon" anchored by neil cavuto it marks the 40th anniversary of the last time man walked on the lunar surface. up next on "final thoughts." about my best friend. ♪ i'm a conservative investor. i invest in what i know. i turned 65 last week. i'm getting married. planning a life. there are risks, sure. but, there's no reward without it. i want to be prepared for the long haul. i see a world bursting with opportunities. india, china, brazil, ishares, small-cap
defense and we'll litigate that next year and there are opportunities to debate the spending, defense and entitlement issues next year, get the tax issue off the table, the weakest one for the republicans and let the president own it -- >> end with a wimper, not a bang. >> yes, could be. >> chris: there you go, see you next week, don't forget, check out panel plus where our group picks up right with the discussion on our web site, foxnewssunday.com and we'll post the video...
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and half in non-defense, defense programs cut by 9.4% across the board and non-defense programs 8.2%. agencies are being told to identify the cuts. how will you feel them? fewer food inspections are likely. cdc budget cuts could make it harder to track food borne illness and cuts to the cancer institute, national science foundation and national cancer institute means 2,500 fewer research grants. worried about clean air and water, budget cuts will degrade the ability to protect the water we drink and the air we breathe. next, your safety. we could see fewer air traffic controllers, federal air marshalls, fbi agents, bothered security patrols. all those budgets would be cut. disaster relief funding also on the chopping block. the white house says that will undermine federal emergency management agency's ability to respond to terrorism and other catastrophes. and education could be cut by more than $4 billion. 100,000 children could lose their place in headstart. the white house says more than 25,000 teachers and aides could lose their jobs. the national education association, it puts t
and half in non-defense, defense programs cut by 9.4% across the board and non-defense programs 8.2%. agencies are being told to identify the cuts. how will you feel them? fewer food inspections are likely. cdc budget cuts could make it harder to track food borne illness and cuts to the cancer institute, national science foundation and national cancer institute means 2,500 fewer research grants. worried about clean air and water, budget cuts will degrade the ability to protect the water we...
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former deputy assistant defense secretary. rula let me begin with you. is this going to blow up into a civil war and blow up? >> no, i think it is against him grabbing power. it is a sign that he needs to back off and drop the decrees and make a constitution that is not acceptable by the egyptians. he is not governing in the name of the muslim brotherhood. he needs to listen to them. >> his recent actions suggest that the answer is no. and that is he going his own way. >> i hope she is right. everyone that you can think of is that the people who prevailed is that the people who are the most organized are the most ruthless. i want to ask you about the role of al qaeda in iraq and in jordon. could this spread to iraq? >> i think they have nothing to do with each other. it is wrong. they are two different cultures. they are a million years away from each other. let protesters are civil enough not to become violent. you saw the soldiers and the police men. they let them say what they wanted. and the us aid. and here the government has a major role because we
former deputy assistant defense secretary. rula let me begin with you. is this going to blow up into a civil war and blow up? >> no, i think it is against him grabbing power. it is a sign that he needs to back off and drop the decrees and make a constitution that is not acceptable by the egyptians. he is not governing in the name of the muslim brotherhood. he needs to listen to them. >> his recent actions suggest that the answer is no. and that is he going his own way. >> i...
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. >> is this the time to send secretary defense. >> if we are recognizing the opposition there, some reports say that it is full of al qaeda as and iraq and al kid is in syria. it is good that the at min tration is finally doing something. we have beeen sitting on their hands. >> the u.s. is sending 20 more f-16. he is at war with reformers and there are rights there. we no no idea what this consti tooth constitution. why are we doing this? >> i'm as confused. i kint of say how is that working for you? nothing to do with syria, yemen ebipt and this is a mess and so is our policy. >> you are right. but we want to be careful by not ailnating the military. >> do we know, ebipt was a secularist. now, the question here is, is it going to become a sharia. is the brotherhood going to get this power. >> that is the biggest concern. we'll see how that goes on sunday. it would be a shame if egypt was less throw. >> why don't we hold this aid back until talks can lay out and send the state department thing over. the secularists and reformers on the straight don't want to do anything. the f-16s
. >> is this the time to send secretary defense. >> if we are recognizing the opposition there, some reports say that it is full of al qaeda as and iraq and al kid is in syria. it is good that the at min tration is finally doing something. we have beeen sitting on their hands. >> the u.s. is sending 20 more f-16. he is at war with reformers and there are rights there. we no no idea what this consti tooth constitution. why are we doing this? >> i'm as confused. i kint of...
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i do think there is a waste of defense. >> dana: the waste in defense, climate change programs that they have to do. >> eric: greg pointed out things that are important. listen to the genius, howard dean. >> the only problem, truth is everybody needs to pay more taxes, not just the rich. >> that is not harasssy, that is honesty. honest moment for the first time. >> bob: can you tell us 30 seconds to tell us how to get the deficit down? >> greg: stop spending. >> bob: i get that. >> eric: i don't need 30 seconds. go over the fiscal cliff. take $1.2 trillion out of spending and tax hikes, stops the spending. mandatory spending cuts across the board. you know what? the only way to do it. only way to do it. everything else is chump change. >> dana: how do you deal with deficit reduction if you raise the taxes on a portion of the country that will pay for the government for 8.5 days? >> bob: you couple that with the social security adjustments and medicare. 'canes that is not what geithner put on the table. >> dana: that is going to be on -- >> bob: that is what is going to be on the table. >
i do think there is a waste of defense. >> dana: the waste in defense, climate change programs that they have to do. >> eric: greg pointed out things that are important. listen to the genius, howard dean. >> the only problem, truth is everybody needs to pay more taxes, not just the rich. >> that is not harasssy, that is honesty. honest moment for the first time. >> bob: can you tell us 30 seconds to tell us how to get the deficit down? >> greg: stop spending....
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over thh next 10 years.that could be on top of other defense department cuts already in the pipeline. the pentagon says cuts would most likely arget ressarch and technology, weapons aad civilian defense department jobs. a new study finds the pills... could actually eliminate the drug's effectivvness in reducing heart attacks and strokes. that's according to new research... out of the university of pennsylvania. reseaachers say the coating may actually prevent aspirin... from absorbing in a &pway thattaalows is to do its &pjob. bayer... which makes aspiiin... helped fund the &pstudy. the company says it disagrees with some of the findings. testing your breath ... could &phelppdetect whether or not a person has colon cancer. according to a new study... those who have the disease tend to have a distinct pattern of chemicals in heir breath. and when reeearchers analyzed the breath samples... they correctll identified colon cancer patients á76-perceetá of the timm. he test is in its verr early stages... and won't be available n your doctor's office anyttme in the a new study finns the sp
over thh next 10 years.that could be on top of other defense department cuts already in the pipeline. the pentagon says cuts would most likely arget ressarch and technology, weapons aad civilian defense department jobs. a new study finds the pills... could actually eliminate the drug's effectivvness in reducing heart attacks and strokes. that's according to new research... out of the university of pennsylvania. reseaachers say the coating may actually prevent aspirin... from absorbing in a...
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. >>> fiscal cliff, the thing we are trying to avoid, had $1.2 trillion in cuts but half are to defense. this has $1.2 trillion in cuts but they're just saying make the whole thing cuts to entitlements in domestic spending and not cut defense at all? trying to entice the democrats saying, i don't want you to fall off this cliff so why don't you voluntarily jump off this steeper cliff but don't worry, your fall will be cushioned by lava. >> that is jon stewart's take on the gop's fiscal cliff offer. he's right. we are better off stumbling down the slope like drunken fools than the republican offer out there. here to explain that and why a huge part of the talks making major changes to medicare may be totally unnecessary is jonathan cohn and joins us now. jon, i think that's a good place to start is this. itç seems like all of the discussions about medicare, in relation to the fiscal cliff or in general seems to have an ajumpgs a assumption it's a big program and in dire need for cutting and reform but there's a basic myth at work there of the efficiency of medicare. >> yeah. medicare i
. >>> fiscal cliff, the thing we are trying to avoid, had $1.2 trillion in cuts but half are to defense. this has $1.2 trillion in cuts but they're just saying make the whole thing cuts to entitlements in domestic spending and not cut defense at all? trying to entice the democrats saying, i don't want you to fall off this cliff so why don't you voluntarily jump off this steeper cliff but don't worry, your fall will be cushioned by lava. >> that is jon stewart's take on the gop's...
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likely a defensive flare. but the moment epitomizes the threat of nuclear weapons that the syrian people now live. rebel forces are now taking the fight directly to the assad regime inside the capital damascus with a deadly explosion near the arab red crescent building and pitch battles for key airfields outside the city. >> it is clear regime forces are being grounded down and they are losing. >> president bashar assad already killed estimated 40,000 people. president obama top aids will fear the fighting take on gruesome character. >> we remained very concerned. very concerned. as the opposition advances on damascus. that the regime might very well consider the use of chemical weapons. >> indeed, the senior officials confirm that syrian technicians mixed unknown quantity of the nerve agent seron and loaded on what officials believe are breakable canisters, aerosol form to be dropped from above. in dublin, secretary of state clinton met twice with the russian foreign minister. the russian dumah leader close t
likely a defensive flare. but the moment epitomizes the threat of nuclear weapons that the syrian people now live. rebel forces are now taking the fight directly to the assad regime inside the capital damascus with a deadly explosion near the arab red crescent building and pitch battles for key airfields outside the city. >> it is clear regime forces are being grounded down and they are losing. >> president bashar assad already killed estimated 40,000 people. president obama top...
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that those defenses from within are weakening. >> mike, the president and speaker boehner apparently did have a telephone conversation last night. are we inching closer to a deal or is that too much of a grown-up christmas wish? >> it's really impossible to say. i think most people in this town would say if it were up to john boehner, he would cut the deal. there are a lot of indications of softening of positions from within republican ranks. i myself am not entirely convinced. i thin there are going to be a lot of hard core bitter enders, if you like, who are not going to vote for a tax increase under any circumstances within the house gop conference, and it could be a very ugly fight within the gop. so the fact that neither side is telling us anything, jay carney today 23r from the podium would not characterize it other than to confirm it took place. kind of ironic, people were taking that as a positive sign. >> mike viqueira delivering depressing news with a smile on his face. thank you, sir. stay with us. the day's "top lines" are coming up. [ male announcer ] it's that time of y
that those defenses from within are weakening. >> mike, the president and speaker boehner apparently did have a telephone conversation last night. are we inching closer to a deal or is that too much of a grown-up christmas wish? >> it's really impossible to say. i think most people in this town would say if it were up to john boehner, he would cut the deal. there are a lot of indications of softening of positions from within republican ranks. i myself am not entirely convinced. i...
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gerri: and 8,000 jobs with defense cuts. cost eight -- 100 million? you have had a surplus will this put you into the red? >> it could. we still look at the federal obama's health care plan with the budget will cost money then look of the mandates tied with the federal money. i asked the president, is you have these federal funds coming down to the states and the strings are still attached it does not give us leeway for our different circumstance -- circumstances other states different constitutions, laws, differe nt styles of living and different needs for the budget. give us some flexibility. gerri: i hope you were more upbeat with the fiscal cliff that use sound like many people big concerns the people can get together and find common ground. it is meaningful to est. like yours. we appreciate your time. gerri: it is not just politicians and ceos. even baseball players take note to. there all top 2% and major league baseball stars just signed a five-year contract with the atlanta braves worth more than $75 million. the $3 billion signing bonus somet
gerri: and 8,000 jobs with defense cuts. cost eight -- 100 million? you have had a surplus will this put you into the red? >> it could. we still look at the federal obama's health care plan with the budget will cost money then look of the mandates tied with the federal money. i asked the president, is you have these federal funds coming down to the states and the strings are still attached it does not give us leeway for our different circumstance -- circumstances other states different...
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that's going to be the defense. however dishonestly. >> geraldo: two people have already been fired at nbc. >> that's not proof of anything, hearstd, you know that. >> that's what they are going to argue exactly what lis said? here is the other side of it. you have to show knowledge of falsity or disregard. malice, there is a good argument to be made that they edited it in a way that would suggest that they wanted to demonstrate he was racist. >> i have got an easier way. no defamation. intentional infliction of emotional distress. >> that's a harder claim to make. you have to show extreme outrageous. >> geraldo: no civil judgment. probably innocent in the criminal -- >> -- defamation may be intentional intention. >> i want to talk pot. voters in colorado and washington legalizing marijuana. the buzz could still be wrecked by the feds? does that worry the initiated. neural speeds increasing to 4g lte. brain upgrading to a quad-core processor. predictive intelligence with google now complete. introducing droid dna by
that's going to be the defense. however dishonestly. >> geraldo: two people have already been fired at nbc. >> that's not proof of anything, hearstd, you know that. >> that's what they are going to argue exactly what lis said? here is the other side of it. you have to show knowledge of falsity or disregard. malice, there is a good argument to be made that they edited it in a way that would suggest that they wanted to demonstrate he was racist. >> i have got an easier...
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as widely expected they agreed to take up a challenge to the federal defense of marriage act, which is the federal law that says the federal government cannot recognize same-sex marriages even in the states where they're legal. but and i think this is the surprising part the justices also aagreed to take up a challenge to california's proposition 8, which could either be a very narrow decision about california only or the justices could take up the basic question about whether states can deny same sex couples the ability to get married. these cases won't be argued until probably march, but i think it's very surprising. this is a huge action by the supreme court today wading fully into the issue of same-sex marriage. so it's going to mean that this will be an absolute blockbuster term. >> pete, can you talk a little bit about what it means to take two cases in this way at the same time? we know from the aca decision that justice roberts cares deeply about his legacy and the legacy of the court. how do we read that into this discussion? is he going to want to be part of a decision stripp
as widely expected they agreed to take up a challenge to the federal defense of marriage act, which is the federal law that says the federal government cannot recognize same-sex marriages even in the states where they're legal. but and i think this is the surprising part the justices also aagreed to take up a challenge to california's proposition 8, which could either be a very narrow decision about california only or the justices could take up the basic question about whether states can deny...
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war savings is not a defense country. spending an enormous amount of money on defense, the largest chunk of our budget. if we continue down this road of pretending, democrats and republican does it pretend we are not going to reduce the defense budget, i don't know how we are going to achieve this miraculous spending restraint and balance we need. >> chris, thank you vet. shira, a great pleasure having you on, my first time with you on news nation. a pleasure to see you, michael. see you tomorrow. >> thank you. >>> digging deep near our new nbc news poll, we will tell you the top three words americans used to describe republicans and not one of them is grand, old or party. >>> plus, secretary of state hillary clinton is expected on capitol hill in exactly one week to testify about a report on benghazi and what went wrong there. it comes as her approval rating hits an all-time high but will she make another run for the white house? >> i really don't believe that that's something i will do again. what i want to do is just k
war savings is not a defense country. spending an enormous amount of money on defense, the largest chunk of our budget. if we continue down this road of pretending, democrats and republican does it pretend we are not going to reduce the defense budget, i don't know how we are going to achieve this miraculous spending restraint and balance we need. >> chris, thank you vet. shira, a great pleasure having you on, my first time with you on news nation. a pleasure to see you, michael. see you...
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defense has to be on the table. everything has to be on table. you have to begin this any dpoesh yags by agrees there are knoll going to be any preconditions. even's going to be on the table. you have to also agree nothing will be decided until everything is decided. you also have to agree everything will be done in confidence and bhoofrd behind closed doors. it's extraordinarily difficult when you try to do it. it looks like the campaign is continuing. that's where we are today. we did social security totally plievt behind closed doors. >> so you think the way they're doing it is just wrong. >> i don't think they'll ever get this this way. they're jousting each other. each side is repeating its campaign talking points. you need to have a serious confidenti confidential, substantial negotiation by top levels of both parties. >> you are a political animal. looking at this, this situation, what is your gut? who's going to win? >> i don't know. who we ought to be talking about is not who's going to win but how can the country win? look. in the short
defense has to be on the table. everything has to be on table. you have to begin this any dpoesh yags by agrees there are knoll going to be any preconditions. even's going to be on the table. you have to also agree nothing will be decided until everything is decided. you also have to agree everything will be done in confidence and bhoofrd behind closed doors. it's extraordinarily difficult when you try to do it. it looks like the campaign is continuing. that's where we are today. we did social...
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at least under the fiscal cliff we have some mandatory cut, albeit us proportionately to defense spending. but it's better than accepting obama's terms crammed down our throat. boehner needs to get a told of this pr machine and paint obama as the one who is holding the country hostage. he wants to talk about holding the middle class hostage. no, it's him holding the entire country hostage and our kids hostage to his reckless spending and cynical refusal to enter the entitlement reform game. >> i don't even want to hear more about taxes. juan, shaking your head. >> i hear you, gentlemen. you guys are wonderful. merry christmas. but sean you said hyperpartisanship, and david talks about inflexibility. you know, and i'm thinking to myself, gee, where have i seen this before? i see it on the republican side, and i think most of the american people when you look he about policy, i'm not just -- >> tell me where obama is giving in this debate at all. he said he wanted to find a middle ground. where has he reached out to republicans? can you tell me. >> sure, i'm going to do it on your terms. he
at least under the fiscal cliff we have some mandatory cut, albeit us proportionately to defense spending. but it's better than accepting obama's terms crammed down our throat. boehner needs to get a told of this pr machine and paint obama as the one who is holding the country hostage. he wants to talk about holding the middle class hostage. no, it's him holding the entire country hostage and our kids hostage to his reckless spending and cynical refusal to enter the entitlement reform game....
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say i will go in and cut taxes on the 98% that make less than $250,000 and i will restore some of the defense cuts made by the sequester. i will be -- the obama tax cuts will replace the bush tax cuts. >> do you think bainer is getting hoodwinked on this? >> it's hard for me to see how the republicans emerge from this well. they are turning the retreat they began november 6th into a republican route i think right now because in their hearts they don't believe what they are doing is right. >> so what do they do? >> it's like a doctor coming in and saying, look, you can give this kidney more heroin, it will kill him. that's what is hurting them and the other doctors come in and say we have to steady and put him on a diet of a little more of this stuff and the other doctor said, no, i'm not going to help you out, i'm not doing that. >> that's what the conservatives in the house are saying to boehner we are going the wrong way. >> then you go off the cliff and go exactly what you said. >> it would be a terrible blow. what the republicans should have done in the beginning is mr. president what do
say i will go in and cut taxes on the 98% that make less than $250,000 and i will restore some of the defense cuts made by the sequester. i will be -- the obama tax cuts will replace the bush tax cuts. >> do you think bainer is getting hoodwinked on this? >> it's hard for me to see how the republicans emerge from this well. they are turning the retreat they began november 6th into a republican route i think right now because in their hearts they don't believe what they are doing is...
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the first seeks to strike down the federal government's defense of marriage act, known as doma. the second involves a challenge to california's proposition 8, a voter-approved ballot initiative that outlawed same-sex marriage. a federal appeals court struck down the law earlier this year. the court's decision to weigh in on marriage equality came as same-sex couples began marrying in washington state yesterday. on election day voters there and in maryland and in maine made history when they became the first states to approve same-sex marriage at the ballot box. joining us now to discuss is steve, chair of the gay and lesbian victory fund. great to have you. >> nice to be here, alex. s. >> so a lot of tea leaf read and arm chair prognostication around this. i am by no means a supreme court expert, but when i saw that they were taking up both doma and prop 8, question as to whether they would take up inform i them at all, it seemed to me a signal that the court was ready to make a big decision, and i just cannot imagine, especially when you have conservatives like john roberts, wh
the first seeks to strike down the federal government's defense of marriage act, known as doma. the second involves a challenge to california's proposition 8, a voter-approved ballot initiative that outlawed same-sex marriage. a federal appeals court struck down the law earlier this year. the court's decision to weigh in on marriage equality came as same-sex couples began marrying in washington state yesterday. on election day voters there and in maryland and in maine made history when they...
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the defense of susan rice we saw is the worst defense of everybody since brutus is an honorable man was simply himself getting carried away, saying don't touch the little lady. saying i'll defend her. he sort of put himself out there as if this is a challenge to my authority. implying that he would have to nominate her. but cooler heads prevailed. not sure whose they were. but clearly had she been nominated the benghazi scandal would have been on the fron page. and i think with her not being nominated, benghazi scandal will die in the main stream media. they will have no interest in this story. that is why i think the president sought safety. he put himself out there. would have rather had her and feels he somehow yielded. the consolation will be he will make her national security advisor, a powerful position. it does not require the consent of the senate. henry kissinger in the first term for nixon they did all this amazing stuff he was the national security advisor and then he became the secretary of state. so it could be even in theory and history a more powerful position than secret
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he gets half a trillion dollars in defense cuts. yes, he gets a half a trillion dollars in cuts in domestic programs. they'll be much more than that in any negotiating deal, so this is actually a very good deal for the president to just say i'm putting forth good faith and if you don't do everything i want, then i've got a fall back i can live with. >> here's another thing that he says. maybe you ca can explain this. he's quoted as saying let tax rates on the upper income folks go up and then let's set up a process with a time certain at the end of 2013 where we will work on tax reform. we'll look at what loopholes, and he goes on. what american is ever going to believe a president or anyone else that later on the government is going to do this? i mean, does he think -- i mean, it's absurd. no american is going to trust that i'm here from the government and here to help you or don't worry, we're going to do this alert. >> it goes back to the basic premise i stated which i don't think the president really wants a deal. he's happy wit
he gets half a trillion dollars in defense cuts. yes, he gets a half a trillion dollars in cuts in domestic programs. they'll be much more than that in any negotiating deal, so this is actually a very good deal for the president to just say i'm putting forth good faith and if you don't do everything i want, then i've got a fall back i can live with. >> here's another thing that he says. maybe you ca can explain this. he's quoted as saying let tax rates on the upper income folks go up and...
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zimmerman has claimed he acted in self-defense. the motions will be heard during a hearing set for tuesday. >>> an independent review of the deadly september 11th attack in libya is set to be released. in a letter to colleagues on the senate foreign relations committee today, senator john kerry indicated the report will be done soon. the letter also says secretary of state hillary clinton will testify before the committee before the end of the year about the report's findings. however, we're told a date has not yet been set for that. during the assault, four americans, including ambassador christopher stevens, died when a group of terrorists attacked the u.s. mission in libya. >>> it has been 491 days since the u.s. lost its top credit rating. what are we doing get it back? president obama asked congress for $60 billion for states affected by superstorm sandy. the request comes at a time when lawmakers are arguing how every dollar is spent. >>> our fourth story "outfront," an historic announcement. the supreme court decided today i
zimmerman has claimed he acted in self-defense. the motions will be heard during a hearing set for tuesday. >>> an independent review of the deadly september 11th attack in libya is set to be released. in a letter to colleagues on the senate foreign relations committee today, senator john kerry indicated the report will be done soon. the letter also says secretary of state hillary clinton will testify before the committee before the end of the year about the report's findings. however,...
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does he really want to take all those cuts in domestic and defense spending? aren't there some things he really thinks will hurt the economy over which he's the steward right now? does he want a second depression? no. a second recession. >> it will hurt the economy. i agree entirely. i think the short-term pressure is much more on john boehner, that he has -- if we go to the first of the year and taxes have gone up on everybody, i think that people will largely blame the republicans for that, as think should. having said that though, the longer this goes on, the more likely it is that it puts the economy in a second recession, and heaven knows that's the last thing that obama wants. so the pressure on obama may not be immediate, but it is there. let's remember, by the way, chris, i think it's always important to remind people, your viewers, what we're talking about here. if we all end up diving off this fiscal cliff, it doesn't make the deficit worse. it makes the deficit better. it would go a long way toward curing the deficit, but the deficit isn't the immed
does he really want to take all those cuts in domestic and defense spending? aren't there some things he really thinks will hurt the economy over which he's the steward right now? does he want a second depression? no. a second recession. >> it will hurt the economy. i agree entirely. i think the short-term pressure is much more on john boehner, that he has -- if we go to the first of the year and taxes have gone up on everybody, i think that people will largely blame the republicans for...
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this one of these things, maybe the driving one, is defense of marriage act was about paying the estate act. where one of the two people said she didn't have to pay the estate tax because a married couple wouldn't have to. >> reporter: this is a case from new york. a woman named edie windsor who married her partner in canada. the partner died and left edie the estate. the federal government said we can't recognize you as married. the irs says you're not married as far as we're concerned she got hit with a tax bill of $363,000. >> we'll leave it there. many thanks. nbc's pete williams. now let's get right to our panel tonight. democratic strategic jimmy williams. wabz radio talk show host mark seimone and washington times opinion writer cari picket. we have a number of topics to chew on this evening. let's begin with the breaking news out of the scouupreme cour and a legal challenge major implications for federal and private benefit payments. cari, let me go to you first and get your first reaction to this. federal versus state. constitutional liberty and rights. the end of the doma act.
this one of these things, maybe the driving one, is defense of marriage act was about paying the estate act. where one of the two people said she didn't have to pay the estate tax because a married couple wouldn't have to. >> reporter: this is a case from new york. a woman named edie windsor who married her partner in canada. the partner died and left edie the estate. the federal government said we can't recognize you as married. the irs says you're not married as far as we're concerned...
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but the court also said it would hear a challenge to the defense of marriage act, a 1996 law passed under president clinton that defined marriage between a man and a woman for the purposes of federal law. the question is why now? why did the supreme court choose this moment? nine states and washington, d.c. all recognize same-sex marriage now. that doesn't seem like very many but it's happening quickly. three of those states people voted to legal marriage in november. maryland, maine, washington. first time ever done so. there's a big public opinion trend here. since '04, "the washington post" abc news polls have been asking people should it be legal or illegal for gay and lesbian couples to get married? in 2004, 59% of people said they thought it should be against the law. in 2012 it was almost the opposite. 53% favor making it legal. pew has been asking the question since 1996. when 65% of people were against same-sex marriage. by october of this year, 49% were for marriage equality while 40% opposed it. one more set of numbers. gallup released its own polling on same-sex marriage this
but the court also said it would hear a challenge to the defense of marriage act, a 1996 law passed under president clinton that defined marriage between a man and a woman for the purposes of federal law. the question is why now? why did the supreme court choose this moment? nine states and washington, d.c. all recognize same-sex marriage now. that doesn't seem like very many but it's happening quickly. three of those states people voted to legal marriage in november. maryland, maine,...
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you've seen a vigorous defense of her by the president and second clinton. i think they're right to do that. >> ambassador nicholas burns, thank you. >>> deal or no deal? two veterans of congress take us behind the scenes of the budget negotiations next on "andrea mitchell reports." ♪ i'd like to thank eating right, whole grain, multigrain cheerios! mom, are those my jeans? [ female announcer ] people who choose more whole grain tend to weigh less than those who don't. multigrain cheerios tend to weigh less than those who don't. sfx- "sounds of african drum and flute" look who's back. again? it's embarrassing it's embarrassing! we can see you carl. we can totally see you. come on you're better than this...all that prowling around. yeah, you're the king of the jungle. have you thought about going vegan carl? hahaha!! you know folks who save hundreds of dollars by switching to geico sure are happy. how happy are they jimmy? happier than antelope with night-vision goggles. nice! get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. go
you've seen a vigorous defense of her by the president and second clinton. i think they're right to do that. >> ambassador nicholas burns, thank you. >>> deal or no deal? two veterans of congress take us behind the scenes of the budget negotiations next on "andrea mitchell reports." ♪ i'd like to thank eating right, whole grain, multigrain cheerios! mom, are those my jeans? [ female announcer ] people who choose more whole grain tend to weigh less than those who...
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and the latest on the showdown in syria and defense secretary leon panetta's warning for president assad with former ambassador nick burns. male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she's not happy about. so i introduced jill to crest pro-health for life. selected for people over 50. pro-health for life is a toothpaste that defends against tender, inflamed gums, sensitivity and weak enamel. conditions people over 50 experience. crest pro-health for life. so jill can keep living the good life. crest. life opens up when you do. [ tylenol bottle ] me too! and nasal congestion. [ tissue box ] he said nasal congestion. yeah...i heard him. [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. nyquil® cold and flu doesn't. [ "the odd couple" theme playing ] humans. even when we cross our "t"s and dot our "i"s, we still run into problems -- mainly other humans. at liberty mutual insurance, we understand. that's why our auto policies come with accident forgiveness if you qualify, where your rates won't go up due t
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syrian air defenses could bring down u.s. pilots if fighter jets are used. the regime could move its chemical weapons even minutes before an attack. and if the weapons start moving around, that poses another dire consideration. officials worry that terrorists could then move in and try to seize control of this deadly arsenal. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> thanks. >>> earlier i spoke with a reporter from amsterdam, and he talked about how marijuana affected that city. next, we're going to have a seattle city leader listen to what he said to us. and is his city ready for pot being legal? that's next. ♪ mom? dad? guys? [ engine turns over ] [ engine revs ] ♪ he'll be fine. [ male announcer ] more people are leaving bmw, mercedes and lexus for audi than ever before. take advantage of exceptional values during the season of audi event. with odor free aspercreme. powerful medicine relieves pain fast, with no odor. so all you notice is relief. aspercreme. >>> marijuana has gone legit. as of thursday recreational use is legal in washington state, and that
syrian air defenses could bring down u.s. pilots if fighter jets are used. the regime could move its chemical weapons even minutes before an attack. and if the weapons start moving around, that poses another dire consideration. officials worry that terrorists could then move in and try to seize control of this deadly arsenal. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> thanks. >>> earlier i spoke with a reporter from amsterdam, and he talked about how marijuana affected that city. next,...
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it's not only defense, but as i see so eloquently stated, it is to defend ourselves ultimately against a tyrannical government if that happens. the difference between liberty and tyranny is if you have a government that is afraid of its people, you have liberty, if you have a people afraid of their government, it's tyranny. >> do you believe that, that you're going to rise up against a tyrannical presidency in your country? >> i would be the first one out there leading the country. we have three boxes in the country, the ballot box, the soap box, and then the bullet box if it's necessary. the government needs to be afraid of its people. then it will serve the people of this great republic. >> james, what is your view of that? >> well, i guess i approach this on two levels. on the merits of what the second amendment is and is not for, i would have a different view of its historical purpose. the framing of the second amendment talks about a well regulated militia. we would disagree there. as a matter of political reality, however, i have come to believe after living around a lot of the w
it's not only defense, but as i see so eloquently stated, it is to defend ourselves ultimately against a tyrannical government if that happens. the difference between liberty and tyranny is if you have a government that is afraid of its people, you have liberty, if you have a people afraid of their government, it's tyranny. >> do you believe that, that you're going to rise up against a tyrannical presidency in your country? >> i would be the first one out there leading the country....
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defense official tells cnn that whatever device iran has, it is not an actively operating navy drone. officials say the navy has fully accounted for all of its unmanned vehicles. there are reports the drone was carrying out spy operations. >>> internet security tycoon john mcafee says he's in guatemala but police believe he's in belize. he's wanted for the shooting death of his neighbor. he says the government is trying to pin the murder on him. mcafee hired a new lawyer. he says he chose guatemala, i'll quote him, the closest place to protect his life from persecution. >>> and george h.w. bush is still in the hospital tonight for treatment of a lingering cough and bronchitis. he was supposed to be released over the weekend, but a spokesman from methodist hospital in houston tells "outfront" that doctors are being extra cautious with his care, and are in hurry to send him home. also told us the former president had a good day yesterday and that his conditioning condition is improving. >>> and this just in a moment ago. mali government officials have agreed to end hostilities. this is
defense official tells cnn that whatever device iran has, it is not an actively operating navy drone. officials say the navy has fully accounted for all of its unmanned vehicles. there are reports the drone was carrying out spy operations. >>> internet security tycoon john mcafee says he's in guatemala but police believe he's in belize. he's wanted for the shooting death of his neighbor. he says the government is trying to pin the murder on him. mcafee hired a new lawyer. he says he...
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here's defense secretary leon panetta. >> the fact that they've launched this missile is clear provocation. we've warned them not to do it. one of the reasons we're real balancing the pacific is to deal with the threat from north korea. and we will. we're prepared to do that. we'll respond if we have to. >> breaking news out of afghanistan where leon panetta had been visiting. a car bomb went off just hours after he left. officials say the secretary was never in danger. >> jerry brown is fighting cancer. it's the second time since returning to office and the third time since 2008. his office said the 74-year-old is undergoing radio therapy for early stage prostate cancer but said he won't miss work. he was treated for skin cancer in 2008 and 2011. >> last night's 121212 concert raised $30 million for victims of hurricane sandy. it included springsteen and bon jovi, alycia keys, the rolling stones, the who and paul mccartney. here's a little taste of another legend, billy joel. ♪ got washed away, jamaica bay and sent manhattan out to sea ♪ ♪ ♪ >> some of us couldn't go to the show s
here's defense secretary leon panetta. >> the fact that they've launched this missile is clear provocation. we've warned them not to do it. one of the reasons we're real balancing the pacific is to deal with the threat from north korea. and we will. we're prepared to do that. we'll respond if we have to. >> breaking news out of afghanistan where leon panetta had been visiting. a car bomb went off just hours after he left. officials say the secretary was never in danger. >>...
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but he also cut defense spending over $250 billion over 10 years. and he has said recently, one of the reasons they lost the house in 1994 was that '93 deal. but here, where is the action, bob? >> well, having tried to do some reporting on this, first of all, i think the staff, the white house staff and the house staff, have met or talked five times. it really is down to obama and boehner at the table. i think you can only take a snapshot right now and try to look at what the experience the president has had recently. he won re-election. he's had lots of ceos in to meet with him. and this is interesting. they are telling him, mostly republicans, let's give on rates. it's not a big deal. i think the house leadership may have lost the parade that is supposed to be following them on that. i think lots of republicans feel that that can be done. and then the ceos are worried to death about another debt ceiling fight like in 2011. >> julianna, you asked the question with the president, when do you and boehner get into a room and? and he basically said, we
but he also cut defense spending over $250 billion over 10 years. and he has said recently, one of the reasons they lost the house in 1994 was that '93 deal. but here, where is the action, bob? >> well, having tried to do some reporting on this, first of all, i think the staff, the white house staff and the house staff, have met or talked five times. it really is down to obama and boehner at the table. i think you can only take a snapshot right now and try to look at what the experience...
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that's why secretary of defense panetta and the president of the united states warned assad publicly about using wmd or chemical weapons against his own people. but let's remember he has more or less given control over a lot of his wmd stock piles, of which it is a huge amount to potentially hezbollah or irani revolutionary guards who are forces for the desperate forces that fight for the survival of the regime. >> let's assume you're right and he's transferring these weapons and missiles. what can we do about these? >> on two things we can do. incinerate the stock piles from the air before they're tliefl loaded on scud missiles or it's going to take a significant ground invasion of about 50,000 troops from wherever they're going to come from, i don't know, to basically secure these stock piles because syria, larry, has the largest stockpile of chemical weapons in the entire middle east outside of iran. >> that statement, 50,000 troops to secure it. who and where is that going to come from? >> well, that's the question of what do as the president mean when he said that syria better n
that's why secretary of defense panetta and the president of the united states warned assad publicly about using wmd or chemical weapons against his own people. but let's remember he has more or less given control over a lot of his wmd stock piles, of which it is a huge amount to potentially hezbollah or irani revolutionary guards who are forces for the desperate forces that fight for the survival of the regime. >> let's assume you're right and he's transferring these weapons and...
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supreme court agrees to take on california's ban of same sex marriage along with the federal defensive marriage act that denies some benefits to legally married same sex couples. do gays have the same constitutional rights as hetero sexuals to get married. cbs 5's juliette goodrich speaks to the couple at the head of this issue. >> she texted me omg granted. then she called me and we just started crying. we were on the phone for a few minutes. we couldn't talk. >> chris perry and sandy steer are cautiously optimistic they will get the legal recognition, benefits and protection of marriage. they say it's been a long time waiting. >> in real life it doesn't feel fast at all. we've been really patient and waited a long time to hear when the final leg of this race would be and now we know. >> just as hetero sexual marriages were taking place at city hall, city attorney dennis herrera and activist held a news conference nearby on a case that's now in the hands of the supreme court. >> so, we are gratified and look forward to making our argument before the united states supreme court about w
supreme court agrees to take on california's ban of same sex marriage along with the federal defensive marriage act that denies some benefits to legally married same sex couples. do gays have the same constitutional rights as hetero sexuals to get married. cbs 5's juliette goodrich speaks to the couple at the head of this issue. >> she texted me omg granted. then she called me and we just started crying. we were on the phone for a few minutes. we couldn't talk. >> chris perry and...
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there hasn't been serious cuts in defense in 30 years. the defense industry is well positioned. they have plants in something in over 300 districts. there's a lot of bipartisan defense spending. for example, the defense authorization bill that just passed yesterday in the senate gave the pentagon $17 billion more than they asked for. so to think that any industry or any taxpayer or any group of people who depend on government spending can be exempted from the serious problem that we have that's caused by this deficit is a mistake. everybody is going to have to pay for this. >> dawn, right or wrong, the defense industry has this reputation of being bloated, overcharging. are we at a point where we could afford to make cuts in defense spending to try and satisfy the needs of lowering the deficit in this country? >> you know, the real issue we've already seen through the budget control act, the defense has already witnessed significant cuts. i think when you're looking at the resolution here, resolving the negotiations so we don't go to the fiscal cliff, the real issue is everybody
there hasn't been serious cuts in defense in 30 years. the defense industry is well positioned. they have plants in something in over 300 districts. there's a lot of bipartisan defense spending. for example, the defense authorization bill that just passed yesterday in the senate gave the pentagon $17 billion more than they asked for. so to think that any industry or any taxpayer or any group of people who depend on government spending can be exempted from the serious problem that we have that's...
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justices agreed to hear arguments about proposition 8 and the defense of marriage act. proposition 8 is the 2008 ballot measure that made same-sex marriage illegal in the state of california. residents voted 52-48 to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry. the 9th court of appeals struck down proposition 8 on the basis it stripped individuals of rights previously granted when same-sex marriages were permitted in the state. opponents of same-sex marriage appealed the ruling to the supreme court which will now review the decision. the court will also take up the defensive marriage act case which challenges a section of the law that defines marriage as between a man and a woman for the purposes of receiving federal benefits. this mean the highest court now has the opportunity to rule on whether gay americans have the same constitutional right to marry as heterosexual americans. the court's decision to hear these cases comes as a series of election victories for same-sex marriage. last month washington, maine, maryland became the first states to approve same-sex m
justices agreed to hear arguments about proposition 8 and the defense of marriage act. proposition 8 is the 2008 ballot measure that made same-sex marriage illegal in the state of california. residents voted 52-48 to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry. the 9th court of appeals struck down proposition 8 on the basis it stripped individuals of rights previously granted when same-sex marriages were permitted in the state. opponents of same-sex marriage appealed the ruling to the...
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one of the things in it that we haven't discussed is the $100 billion cuts in defense spending. itis important to mention. there are tax plans, the tax plan, the proposal to tax transactions on wall street would generate $350 billion, new revenue. this is the sort of conversation we need. >> i want to talk a little bit more about that and more about the idea of another debt ceiling show down which is possible here. we'll talk about that when we come back. maybe you want to incorporate a business. or protect your family with a will or living trust. and you'd like the help of an attorney. at legalzoom a legal plan attorney is available in most states with every personalized document to answer questions. get started at legalzoom.com today. and now you're protected. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express by december 22nd for christmas delivery. you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 bran
one of the things in it that we haven't discussed is the $100 billion cuts in defense spending. itis important to mention. there are tax plans, the tax plan, the proposal to tax transactions on wall street would generate $350 billion, new revenue. this is the sort of conversation we need. >> i want to talk a little bit more about that and more about the idea of another debt ceiling show down which is possible here. we'll talk about that when we come back. maybe you want to incorporate a...